Joke Whole
3:25 Sat Jan 24
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"No shoes on the table" may simply be down to good hygiene - back in the day, people used to wade about in all sorts of shit lying in the street.
That sort of item didn't generally hold a status as a flavour enhancer - may be different in today's East End.
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gph
3:23 Sat Jan 24
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Green clothing is bad luck isn't just East End - In 1910, Burnley changed to claret and blue from their previous green kit because they thought they were losing games because of their strip.
I can think of a more likely reason..
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bruuuno
3:16 Sat Jan 24
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My dad gets the right hump if you out shoes on the table, it's ridiculous and some of his superstitions actually cause him inconvenience
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violator
3:10 Sat Jan 24
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My mum still says the shoes on table one
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Takashi Miike
2:51 Sat Jan 24
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green clothing is bad luck
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Northern Sold
2:48 Sat Jan 24
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Rub a black man's head for good luck....
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MrTrentReznor
2:44 Sat Jan 24
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If a bird gets into a room there will be a death in the family.
This is a bird of the feathered variety - not that your wife will poison you if she catches you with Holly Willoughby in the parlour.
Wife salutes lone magpies to ward off bad luck & takes straw from Christmas crib every year & keeps in wallet to ensure it's never empty.
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Billy Go Wings
1:04 Sat Jan 24
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Might not be East End specific but my East End Nan was always one for the magpies, one for sorrow, two for joy.
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theaxeman
12:46 Sat Jan 24
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My Great Grandmother used to say, if you poured the tea that you didn't make, you'd get ginger twins. Also never put new shoes on a table. She came from George Yard just off Whitechapel High Street, just as you walk through the alley where Blooms used to be.
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Billy Blagg
12:42 Sat Jan 24
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Bouncing Ludo 11:46 Sat Jan 24
Well you shouldn't do because he's a superb writer and a brilliant broadcaster. If you stopped listening, reading, watching people just because they don't support WHU then you'd be down to a diet of Ray Winstone, Danny Dyer and Russell Brand. Good enough, you may say but I prefer to take in some other opinions too.
Anyway, to the main point of the thread, I don't know if it's strictly an east end thing but there's that whole Magpie malarkey that caused my step-daughter to say "Why when I see a magpie is there only ever one of them?". Mind you, considering her life there may be something in it.
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WHOicidal Maniac
11:50 Sat Jan 24
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Bouncing Ludo 11:05 Sat Jan 24
Seems to be a Victorian thing, there was a rhyme that children were taught..
Hold your collar
Never swallow
Never catch a flea
None for me
None for you
None for all the family!
Again, like a lot of Traditions, it probably come from the Jewish Tradition of Kriah. Tearing the clothes in Mourning was a common Practice and collars in the old days were removable from the shirt and easily replaced. I think its just became a sign of respect in the same way I still take of my hat when a funeral car passes.
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Bouncing Ludo
11:46 Sat Jan 24
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Bizarrely, about 15 minutes after my last post below I was reading the danny baker book and he talks about holding his collar when you see the flashing blue lights of an emergency vehicle until you see a 4 legged animal.
Yes, I'm fully aware that he's Millwall, so I wash my eyes out with bleach after every chapter,
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leave my arcelona
11:35 Sat Jan 24
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Bouncing Ludo 11:05 Sat Jan 24
I was taught that growing up. Still to this day stop and grab hold of my collar
Also the shoes thing. Always thought its only unlucky if you lay them on a table once your not wearing them ?
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wanstead_hammer
11:13 Sat Jan 24
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Trouble is, you'll end up in hospital with a dodgy shoulder if it goes on too long!
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wanstead_hammer
11:11 Sat Jan 24
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Weren't it something like hold your collar till you see a dog??
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Bouncing Ludo
11:05 Sat Jan 24
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Years ago I saw a funeral on Eastenders, and as the hearse passed through the square, Billy Mitchell (Perry Fenwick) and another actor grabbed hold of their collars with their right hand. I have never been able to find out the significance of this. I assumed it was an east end thing..anybody know anything about this ?
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Dick Gozinia
9:44 Sat Jan 24
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Frightening kids by telling them Ronald_antly is hiding under their beds.
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cholo
8:26 Sat Jan 24
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Most of these superstitions aren't even exclusive to the UK let alone the east end.
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Joke Whole
6:47 Sat Jan 24
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The sight/sound of crows precede the news of a death (in the family) - that was one I often heard.
I put that down to the fact that crows were consummate scavengers and would feast on any carrion they found, including human bodies. They were often heard/seen hours before any actual news arrived (on foot, normally).
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PistonHammered
6:33 Sat Jan 24
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There's something about leaving the lid off of a pot of brewing tea.
Strangers going to visit or some bollocks.
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Joke Whole
5:59 Sat Jan 24
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Not sure those superstitions mentioned are East End, east London or even English: I've heard my mother often use them all as I was growing up and she hails from the (far) north of Scotland.
They may well have a common (imported) route though, given the peoples that have come and gone to make up what is now Great Britain.
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